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[技术] 1/72蓝背鱼潜艇模型制作

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:00:01 | 显示全部楼层
刚才的底部,船头开始。 If it gives me any trouble than I have screwed the pooch on all 6 sections.如果给我任何麻烦,比我有螺纹的pooch对所有6节。 But true to what the spec sheet says it took exactly 1.5 hours before it gelled at 72 degrees.但真正要什么规格表说了,正是1.5小时之前,胶凝在72度。
  Now on to the other 5 sections.现在就向其他五部分。 It's going to be a long night!这将会是一个漫漫长夜!
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  所有的主人有一个很好一层厚厚的亚视对他们的影响。 all gelled so tomorrow I can do the mother molds.所有胶凝,所以明天我可以做母亲的模具。
  And then there's this.然后有这一点。 Yes a clean work bench.是一个清洁的工作平台。 So what do you figure we do with this?所以,你有什么数字,我们做这问题呢? A 212 would be nice. 1 212会很好。 Now to fins that dran 3 inch PVC (do they make it that size?) Pick up some blue foam and put these plans I have to work.现在鱼翅认为dran 3英寸聚氯乙烯(请勿他们认为大小? )拾取一些蓝色的泡沫和提出的这些计划,我要工作。
   More tomorrow folks.明天的乡亲。 I'm real glad to be past this point!我真正高兴能够在过去这一点! It's down hill from here and David Merriman will have a hull and the masters for the sail and appendages all by the end of next week.它的下跌山从这里和大卫梅里曼将有船体和当家作主为船帆和附件所有由明年年底周。 Can't wait to build one!不能等待,以建立一个!
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  

  

  Still a little flash to trim off but this is just after openning the molds.仍然是一个小的Flash修剪过,但,这是刚刚开放的模具。 I'm very pleased.我很高兴。 The really hard part is done and set in stone!该确有困难的部分是做并设置在石头!
  首先,您使用了一些水基粘土和作一个简单墙奠定了第一,双方表示反对。 Once the first side sets up you remove this clay and Vaseline the wall and do the second side.一旦第一方设置删除此粘土和凡士林墙,做第二次的一面。
  This stuff mixes just like plaster but takes longer to set up.这种东西混为一谈,就像膏药,但需要更长的时间才能成立。
  

  After the wall mix up some Ultracal 30 and lay it up.后墙上的组合了一些ultracal 30奠定了。
  

  Next when this just about sets up I take some water soaked burlap and more stone and lay up the last layer.明年,当这只是建立了我一些水浸泡burlap和更多的石头和奠定了去年层。
  

  I couldn't get a picture of the blur lap as my hands were covered in crap and I couldn't touch the camera but it's there.我可以看不到图片的模糊圈作为我的双手被涵盖在crap我无法触摸相机,但它的存在。 This way the mother mold can be quite thin but still strong as a result of the burlap reinforcement.这样的母亲模具可以相当薄,但依然强劲,由于该burlap增援。
  

  Here you can see the first sides all done.在这里您可以看到第一,双方都做了。 I then remove the clay and using a bit more clay in certain areas as darts when the stone is laid against it it leaves a cavity that later can be used to pry the two sections apart.然后我删除粘土和使用较为粘土在某些领域作为飞镖游戏时,石头是奠定了反对它留下了腔,后来可以用来刺探该两项条文,除了。 Notice the white clay.通知白粘土。
  

  Didn't get anymore pictures after this point but you do the same lay-up on the second side as you did the first.没有得到了图片后,这一点,但你做同样的裁员行动,第二个方面,作为你的第一次。 Let that set up and place plastic wrap over the molds and mix up more stone with burlap to make a simple cradle to support and mold the two sides of the mothers molds together.让设立和地点塑料包装超过模具和混为一谈,更结石burlap ,使一个简单的从摇篮到支持和模具,双方的母亲模具在一起。
  Next today I'll pour the plugs form these molds.明年今日,我会倾诉插头的形式,这些模具。

 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:00:55 | 显示全部楼层
然测试插头真空成型之前,我没有他们全部的上部的船头。 Perfect and ready fro vacuum forming.完善和准备来来往往真空成型。 I'll now go ahaed and do all the rest.现在,我会去ahaed和做所有的休息。
  I couldn't be more happy with the results.我无法更高兴的结果。 This system worked out well.这个系统的工作搞好。
  

  First I poured the ultracal 30 into the leveled off mold and let it set a bit.首先,我倾注了ultracal 30到平地小康模具,让它订出一个位元。 Then scraped it perfectly level.然后,它完全抄袭的水平。
  

  After it set for a few hours here's what we got.之后,它定为几个小时在这里的我们得到什么。 Nothing to patch fix or repair.无关的修补程序修复或修复。
  一点更好的镜头,即插即用。
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  以及我们已准备就绪,真空成型,这周! All the plugs are ready to go.所有的插头都准备就绪。
  Tomorrow I'll get the styrene and off to the vacuum form machine.明天我将得到苯乙烯和关闭,以真空形式的机器。
  Steve史蒂夫
  


 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:03:40 | 显示全部楼层


  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  


 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:32:45 | 显示全部楼层
这里的第二十八采取从冯书正本甘楚送我一本船民和二十六。 I have the plans for both of these boats too from Gantu.我有计划,对双方这些船只也从甘楚。
  The 28 looks a lot like a 21. 28看来,有很多像一个21 。 But look close again.但看看再次关闭。 You'll see the differences.您会看到的分歧。
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  

  

  The smaller boat sitting next to the 28 is the type 26规模较小的船民坐在旁边的28型是26日
  

  

  忘记机械混合器。 Buy one of those micro electrical ones used for flying wings.购买一个这些微型电器的用于飞行的翅膀。 ($19.99) and be done with it. ( $ 19.99 )和做它。 I have had 7 subs.我曾7潜艇。 Most with APCs but NEVER felt I needed one for my 1/48th 212.最与装甲运兵车,但从来没有觉得我需要一个我1/48th 212 。 It was the most responsive boat I ever had这是最响应船民是我曾
  Sometimes real world experience wins over endless calculations.有时现实世界的经验,战胜无休止的计算。
  

  模具的附件和航行。 Except for Merriman's prop we are almost there.除了梅里曼的版权,我们几乎有。 Talked to the vacuum form maker and I should have the machine soon.交谈真空形式,制造商,我应该有机器很快。
  First I mounted the appendages on extensions.首先,我登上附件就延长。 I forgot to take a picture of the sail but it's mounted on a 1/4 inch riser as well.我忘记了拍摄一张照片的船帆,但它的安装在1 / 4英寸提升,以及。 You can see here the stern plane parts are laid up with clay in half at the center line as I need to make a two piece mold for these parts.您可以在这里看到严峻的飞机零件,奠定了与粘土的一半,在中间的线,正如我需要作出两件模具这些零件。 The Sail planes and rudders are one piece.船帆的飞机和舵是一件。
  

  Next I took some scrap balsa and made some close fitting walls to catch the RTV.接下来,我采取了一些废料balsa ,并提出了一些密切装修墙壁赶上室温硫化。
  

  Once that was done I mixed up some BJB 50/40 and poured it in the sail, sail plan and rudder molds.一旦这是做i混合了一些bjb四十○分之五十○倒,它在船帆,帆计划和舵的模具。 Next I let it set up for 24 hours.接下来,我让它成立了24小时。
  

  Next was to pour up the stern planes with GI 1000 RTV.其次是倾诉了严峻的飞机与胃肠1000室温硫化。
  

  After that set up I removed the clay and used petroleum jelly as a separator and poured the second side.后所订的介绍I取消了粘土和使用石油果冻作为一个分离器,并倾注了第二个方面。
  

  For the sail I used water based clay and laid up a flat wall that would separate the two sides of the stone mold.为船帆我用的水为基础的粘土和奠定了一个单位的墙,将单独双方石模具。
  

  The mixed up some stone and laid up a wet coat .混合了一些石料和奠定了一个湿外套。
  

  As this stuff begins to set up a lot like plaster you can shape it by had to an even thickness.因为这东西开始设立了很多像石膏您可以形状,它由民政事务总署,甚至厚度。
  

  After it sets up I removed the clay and used petroleum jelly as a separator and did the second side the same way.之后,它集介绍I取消了粘土和使用石油果冻作为一个分离器,并没有第二方相同的方式。 Once this sets up you can open the two sides, and then remove the master from the RTV.一旦这个设置可以开启双方,然后删除主从室温硫化。
  

  Here's the mother mold all done.这里的母亲模具的所有工作要做。
  

  Now tomorrow I'll take this apart and make the RTV plug that fits inside the mold to create an even thickness to the sail when cast.现在,明天我将采取这除了使室温硫化堵塞适合内的模具,以创造一个更厚船帆时,演员。 I'll show you how that's done tomorrow.我将告诉您如何说的做的明天。 Here's all the finished molds awaiting opening.这里的所有成品,模具,等待开幕。
  


 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:33:49 | 显示全部楼层
继续与船帆的模具和核心,使铸件hallow 。
  Here you see the 3 components of the mold.这里,您可以看到3个组成部分的模具。
  

  Now to put it back together and cut some basic keys in the wall to lock in the RTV core mold in it's proper position.现在将它放回一起和削减一些基本的钥匙在墙上的锁,在室温硫化模具的核心,在它的正确的位置。
  

  Next i use water based clay and flatten it out to about 3/16 thickness and cut cut it using the base of the sail for reference.接下来,我使用水基粘土和扁平的出来,约3 / 16厚度和削减削减它使用的基础上船帆以供参考。 This will go inside the mold at the top of the sail.这将大大内的模具在上方的船帆。
  

  And now it's placed inside the sail.现在的内船帆。
  

  Now I'll do the same thing with the sides and place the clay inside the mold and smooth it all together.现在,我会做同样的事情,与两岸和地点粘土内的模具和顺利,它的所有在一起。 When poured this will make a displacement core to keep the casting an even thickness.当倒在这将使位移的核心,以保持铸造一,甚至厚度。
  

  Here it is all blended together inside.在这里,这是所有混合在一起内。
  

  Next using more clay I made pressure relief channels.明年使用更粘土,我的压力,救济渠道。 This way when the resin is poured and the core pressed in the excess has somewhere to go.这样,当树脂是倾注和核心,压在过剩已某处去。 The wall around the outside is to trap the RTV when I pour.墙周围以外的是陷阱,该内河船,当我倾诉。
  

  Next I mixed up some RTV and poured.接下来,我混合了一些内河船倒。 Once this all sets up we take this all apart and clean out the clay.一旦这所有集合起来,我们采取这一切,除了和清理粘土。
  

  Here it is after I've taken it apart and cleaned it up.在这里,这是之后,我所采取的,它除了和清理了。
  

  Here's all the components.这里的所有组成部分。
  

  And the finished mold.和成品的模具。
  

  Now I'm going to let these molds air out and fully cure for the next 7 days before I use them as the molds will last much longer this way.现在我要去让这些模具的空气和充分治愈率为未来7天内之前,我使用它们作为铸模将持续更长时间这样做。 All the masters are in perfect condition which means I can always make new molds anytime I want.所有的主人,是在完美的条件,这意味着我可以一直作出新的模具,随时我想。
  Here's all the masters and molds it took to get here.这里的所有主人和模具,它获得了在这里。 Now I have only to wait on the vacuum form machine to arrive and start making kits.现在我只有等待对真空形式机抵达,并开始做袋。
  

  I will now move on to the next sub while we wait here.我现在会移动到下一分,而我们在这里等待。

 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:38:41 | 显示全部楼层
好的。 So Olivier is working on the CNC 212.因此,奥利维是工作对数控212 。 I'm talking to Tom Anderson who offered to do some CNC for me too.我说的汤姆安德森谁愿意做一些数控为我也是。 I plan to have him do the Type 2.我计划在有他这样做2型。
  So.因此。 What next?下一步怎么办? While I wait I have some wood.虽然我等待我有一些木材。 A clean work table.一个清洁的工作表。 Some lovely CAD plans with formers and all for a Nautilus Class that Chris did up for me.一些可爱的民航处计划与成型和所有为鹦鹉螺类,克里斯没有为我。
  Hmmm................. hmmm .................
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  

  我觉得他做了神奇的工作,在打破颈部速度。 Thanks David for getting right one this.感谢朱获取的权利之一。 You beat the vacuum form machines getting here!你战胜真空的形式机器到这儿!
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  


 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:40:38 | 显示全部楼层
这里的真实道具。
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  得到的道具,刚才在邮件中,从梅里曼。 Man these things are so pretty you'll want to hang on a Christmas tree!男子这些东西是这么漂亮的您想要挂在圣诞树!
  David you are amazing.大卫您是惊人。 Not just damn good but freaking fast!不只是可恶良好,但再用快! ****. ****外围。 you sure showed me.您是否确实显示了我。
  Here's some pictures.这里的一些图片。 All you have to do is trim the little bit of flash and your read to go.所有您需要做的就是削减点点闪光和您的阅读去。 Even has a stainless set screw.甚至有一个不锈钢螺钉。
  Steve史蒂夫
  First 20 props!头20道具!
  

  

  

  

  供应与机器是六张, 030苯乙烯。 so today I did some tests.所以今天我做了一些测试。 The plastic is too thin for a model but good enough to put the machine through it's paces.塑胶是太薄一个模型,但不够好,把机器通过它的步伐。
  First pull did pull the plastic down flat to the table very well.第一个下拉式选单没有拉塑胶下跌的单位,以表得很好。 But it was good enough to get an idea how the plugs were working out.但它是好的足以让一个想法如何插头工作。 I needed to make the extensions perfectly even with the master shape itself.我需要作出的扩展,甚至完全与主图形本身。 It wasn't in some areas.它不是在某些领域。 A little blue tape over the hull shape even to the extensions and I could sand it even without damaging the hull shape.一小蓝磁带船体形状,甚至扩展,我可以砂,它即使没有破坏船体的形状。
  I also added a 1/2 inch piece of plywood to the bottom of the plug to raise it off the table and tried again.我也增加了1 / 2英寸一块胶合板,以底部的***程式,以提高它关闭表,并试图再次。 As it turns out I didn't get the plastic soft enough.因为它原来我没有得到足够的软塑料。 It's a knife edge between to hot and saggy and not enough.这是一个刀刃之间的热点和saggy和不足够的。 So for each new model you have to do test to get it right.因此,为每一个新模式,你必须做的测试,以获得它的权利。 Second try.第二次尝试。 Perfect!完美!
  Now to order some 080 and I can start making the kits.现在为了一些080 ,我就可以开始使袋。 Sorry guys this has taken so long but we are on the home stretch now.对不起,这家伙需要这么久的,但我们对民政舒展现在。
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  Got a little webbing but it's all below the plug edge and on the plywood I used to get it up higher off the table.一个小带子,但它的所有下面的***程式的优势以及对胶合板我用得到更高的小康之列。 So no problem there.所以没有问题。
  

  Here's the heating box.这里的暖气方块。 Last time I posted pictures of it it was not all put together.我最后一次张贴的照片,它是不是所有的放在一起。 Nate did a good job on this machine.奈特的工作做得很好,在这台计算机上。 The plastic tray rests on this ans when the plastic starts to sag the whole thing flips over and on to the vacuum form table.塑料托盘在于对这个答复时,塑料开始凹陷,整个翻转过去,就向真空表的形式。 Very easy to use.非常容易使用。
  

  Here's the part cut away.这里的部分截除。 There still some flash that you will have to cut away and I put some primer on it to take a look.还有一些闪光,你将不得不削减以外,我把一些引上它采取看看。 I'm hoping to get gray styrene.我希望得到的灰色苯乙烯。 White is just nasty.白皮书只是讨厌。
  

  Here's a couple of parts I tested the fit on.这里的一对夫妇的部分,在我所测试的适当人选。 I only just trimmed it a bit.我只是刚刚削减它一点。 Didn't flat sand to the exact edge either.没有单位的沙土,准确的优势。 So it only gets better but this looks pretty good.因此,只有得到更好的,但这个看起来不错。 A little filling and sand is all it will take to blend it.小加油站和沙是所有将采取什么融合。
  

  As you can see here the cut lines are very well seen.你可以看到这里的截线是很清楚看到。 So you shouldn't have any trouble flat sanding and fitting the parts together.所以你不应该有任何麻烦,单位砂及装修部分在一起。 Un like the Dumas Akula!联合国一样,杜马akula !

 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:42:05 | 显示全部楼层
详细资料仍然相当鲜明的对我的喜欢。 But keep in mind when I use 080 it will be less.但请记住,当我使用080 ,它将会减少。
  Here's another shot of the three pieces I ruffed taped together.这里的另一个拍摄的三件i ruffed录音在一起。
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  这里的一些测试拉动的各部分。
  As you can see the sail is slush poured.正如您所看到的船帆是秘密倾注了。 Alumilite must be cold to do this. alumilite必须冷做到这一点。 I did two yesterday when it was quite cold no problem.我本来昨天二时,是相当冷没有问题。 But today I tried another and it failed as it set up too fast.但今天,我尝试另一种和它失败,因为它成立的太快了。 We were in the high 70s today and I didn't even consider it.我们在高,七十年代,今天和我什至没有考虑。
  The sail is very thin and strong this way and weighs very little.船帆是非常薄的和强烈的这种方式,重量非常少。 Easier to do than epoxy if you time it right.比较容易做的比环氧如果您的时间,它的权利。
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  

  

  

  

  

  


 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:43:53 | 显示全部楼层
这里的什么部分铺陈,将这个样子。 Also this is how it will be sectioned on mine to get to the WTC.此外,这是它如何将切片,对矿井去世贸中心。
  Work for you?为您工作?
  steve史蒂夫
  

  取得了一个包今天。 Although the vacuum former worked like a champ as did the plugs and molds I am not very happy with the 090 plastic.虽然真空前的工作就像一个冠军一样,插头及模具,我不是很高兴,与090胶。 Too thick.太浓。
  Shut up Merriman you smart ass!闭嘴,梅里曼,你聪明驴! Ok now that that's done he did warn me.确定,现在说的做,他警告我。
  What happens is that the detail is swallowed up a bit.发生什么事,就是细节是吞下了一个位。 but the worse part is if there's one bit of un even surface no matter how slight it amplifies the **** out of it.但更糟的部分是如果有1位联合国,甚至表面上无论多么轻微,它扩大****外围出来。 If these were made from glass you wouldn't even see it except for the most harsh of lighting conditions.如果这些发了言,从玻璃,你甚至不会看到它除了最苛刻的照明条件。
  I'm going to build the one on the table to show you guys even a lumpy piece of horse crap can turn into a nice model with a little filler and some sanding.我要建立一个放在桌上,向您显示家伙甚至结节一块马crap可以变成一个很好的模式,与少许填料和一些砂。
  So I had some 030 and did a test.所以我有一些030做了测试。 Product looks good.产品看起来很不错。 So my thinking is now to take back 4 sheets and trade it for 060 black styrene.所以,我的想法是,现在采取回4张和贸易为060黑色苯乙烯。 Once you glue all the sections together you will have a strong boat.一旦您胶水的所有各款一起,您将有强烈的船民。 But less bumps and more detail.但少坎坷和更多细节。
  I was able however Mr. Smarty pants to pull hull parts consistently without rejects.我能,但先生smarty裤子拉船体部分,始终没有拒绝。 The vac machine is a winner!该VAC转接机是一个赢家!
  Here's a picture what a kit will look like now that I have one.这里有一个图片是什么了一套看起来会像现在我有一个。 I forgot to put Merriman's beautiful custom scale prop on the table but go back a few pages if your new to see it.我忘了把梅里曼的美丽自定义规模道具放在桌上,但回去几页如果您的新才能看到它。
  Tomorrow I'm going to re tool the plugs a bit with a bit of sand paper.明天我要去重新工具插头1位与位的砂纸。 I'll use this kits hull parts to identify where the trouble areas are and fix them.我会使用这个工具包的船体部分,以确定哪些地方的麻烦地区,并加以修复。 Then run another set as I already have committed one 4x8 sheet of styrene.然后运行另一套作为我已经有承诺一4x8资产负债表的苯乙烯。
  But Tuesday I will get the new black 060 and start making your kits since I have the procedure down pat!但周二,我会得到新的黑色060 ,并开始让您的资料袋,因为我的程序,下跌八!
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  

  

  ****外围。 forgot the update.忘记了更新。
  Got the 060 and it works.得到了060和它的工程。 The white is the 090 and you could beat a man to death with it.白皮书是090 ,你可以殴打一名男子死刑。 The black 060 is not as tuff however there will be internal bulkheads at the suggestion of David Merriman.黑060是不是凝灰岩,但会有内部舱壁上的建议,大卫梅里曼。 It is black so when you scuff it it won't show.它是黑色的,所以当您scuff它,这将不会显示。 The detail is much better and the lumpy stuff gone.详细好得多和结节的东西了。
  In the pictures the white is the 090 and the black 060.在图片的白皮书是090和黑060 。 I'm very happy now.我很高兴现在。 These things take time but now I'm ready for production!这些事情需要时间,但现在我已经准备好生产!
  Steve史蒂夫
  

  

  


 楼主| 发表于 2008-6-9 06:44:30 | 显示全部楼层
丹它不会帮助。 They are already over done as it is.他们已经超过做,因为这是。
  Well where have I been?以及如果我被? Good question.好的问题。 I found that as a result of the sub being this size being done in sections is a real pain in the ass!我发现,由于小组正在此大小正在做的第一个真正的疼痛,在驴!
  What happens is the plastic likes to bow outwards.发生什么事,是塑料喜欢低头向外。 This really worried me.这真的担心我。
  So knowing I needed bulkheads to support the WTC anyway I wondered if having a few more wouldn't pull her back to shape.所以知道我需要舱壁支持世台会无论如何,我想知道如果有一个数更不会拉她回到形状。 It appears to work.看来工作。 Also when you start gluing the sections together they seem to re round but not enough.此外,当您启动粘合节一起,他们似乎重新全面,但并不足够。
  First I took the RTV master molds and used modeling clay at the right points to get the shape pattern.首先,我采取了室温硫化掌握模具和用于建模粘土在正确的点,以获得形状的模式。
  

  Next I put the clay over paper and made tracings of all four bulkheads.接下来,我把粘土以上的纸张和作出tracings的所有四个舱壁。
  

  This gave me all the basic shapes for the bulkheads.这给了我的所有基本形状为舱壁。
  

  Then I took a bunch of styrene, glued it together and then glued the tracings on to that with 3M 77.然后我采取了一大堆苯乙烯,胶结一起,然后粘在tracings到该与3米77 。 Next to the band saw.明年向带锯。
  

  Once I cut all the bulkheads, to make them accurate, I placed them back into the master RTV molds and used icing on the edges to make the shape conform perfectly to the inside of the hull.我曾经削减所有舱壁,使他们准确的,我把他们重新融入主室温硫化模具和使用除冰对边缘,使形状完全符合以内部船体。
  

  Next I took them out and onto the flat sander.接下来,我带他们出来,到单位桑德。
  

  Then I cleaned them up and primered them.然后我清洗起来和引他们。 Made a styrene box which I glued them too and poured the RTV.作出了苯乙烯方块,我胶合板他们也倒在了室温硫化。
  

  

  Tomorrow I will pour up the bulkheads in Alumilite and start the assembly of a hull to make sure all is well.明天我会倒了舱壁在alumilite ,并开始大会的船体,以确保一切都很好。

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